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Does anyone have any experience of bolting a 5 sp BE3 box from a 205 staight in to a 306 rallye?Is it a straight swap, or are there any things i need to know?
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 cbgbrally
Newbie  Location: Chesterfield Registered: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Status: Offline |
Is it a straight swap, or are there any things i need to know? |
 Posted 22nd Oct 2009 at 18:17
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gman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #2
use a Xsara VTS box instead if you're after 5 speeds. Otherwise it's not a straight swap, I think you need to use an 405 mi16 clutch.________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2009 at 18:37
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cbgbrally
Newbie Location: Chesterfield Registered: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Is this due to the casing or the internals ? |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2009 at 18:44
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,801 Status: Offline |
Post #4
the 205 1.9 box is meant to be a good 'un ..________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2009 at 19:19
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,829 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I was under the impression that you would just have to change the selector fork over and possibly move the mount. Don't see why the clutch would have to be changed. I used a 405 Mi16 box in my 205 and its the same box as the Xsara VTS. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2009 at 19:24
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #6
The bellhousing is different, the xsara vts and gti6 has a stronger belhouising with extra bolts holding sump to bellhousing |
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Posted 22nd Oct 2009 at 19:39
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marksorrento205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Airborne in the lanes Registered: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2,228 Status: Offline |
Post #7
adam b wrote: I was under the impression that you would just have to change the selector fork over and possibly move the mount. Don't see why the clutch would have to be changed. I used a 405 Mi16 box in my 205 and its the same box as the Xsara VTS. A 205 box uses a push clutch not a pull clutch hence why people fit an mi16 clutch as it bolts straight on to the 6 flywheel, is bigger than a 205 one and is a push type. It may be possible to swap the clutch fork assy and retain the pull clutch?  to a xsara vts box but why would you want to fit a 5 speed to the rallye?________________________________________ How to do a clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2009 at 00:19
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cbgbrally
Newbie Location: Chesterfield Registered: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Status: Offline |
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quote: [quote="markrallye to a xsara vts box but why would you want to fit a 5 speed to the rallye?Because i currently have a 5sp be3 with a quaife 4.8 and tranx on my 205 , I'm looking at various options for next years road rallying . A 306 rallye or another 205 with a GTi 6 engine |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2009 at 00:33
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marksorrento205
Seasoned Pro Location: Airborne in the lanes Registered: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2,228 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Sweet and you want to keep the box. I dont blame you  Are any of them bits able to be put into the 6 speed box? Miles is your best bet to ask!!________________________________________ How to do a clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2009 at 01:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,866 Status: Offline |
Post #10
swap the clutch arms and cable brackets off your gti6 box to the 205 box, use the gti6 clutch should be damn good fun with the 4.8 FD, which gearset does it have? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2009 at 02:19
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cbgbrally
Newbie Location: Chesterfield Registered: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 8 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Thanks for that , it the std 1.9 gearset , so is good for about 117 flat out .Are the 1.9 5 sp gears considered stronger that the 6 speed ones? |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2009 at 13:04
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monty-69
Senior User  Location: Colne Registered: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 792 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Think the speedo drive assembly will need swapping over as well if you want an accurate speedo.Both the plastic cog that pulls out of top of diff and the plastic drive pinion in the diff. |
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Posted 24th Oct 2009 at 16:31
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