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 allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #26
I take it the spacer in the caliper can be machined down to suit any width disk??When you've had a proper look at them could you post up the maximum size disc you could fit in them when fitted under a cyclone please. I may be interested in just a pair of calipers if you think you can fit a decent size disc in. Cheers allan ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
 Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 02:34
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #27
allanallen wrote: I take it the spacer in the caliper can be machined down to suit any width disk?? When you've had a proper look at them could you post up the maximum size disc you could fit in them when fitted under a cyclone please. I may be interested in just a pair of calipers if you think you can fit a decent size disc in. Cheers allan You can fit up to a 330x30mm disc in them fella. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 02:44
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I realise that buddy, I would be looking to make up my own brackets and some ally bells and rotors, i'd ideally like them to fit under cyclones but I want at least a 300mm rotor. I thought that onced you'd had a play you may be able to tell what the maximum possible disk diameter would be under the cyclone. Sorry i'm p*ss poor at explaning things. Al ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 03:48
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #29
darkgti6 wrote: jcphat wrote: How about Mkv golf Gti/Seat leonFR fitment? My credit card has started to itch!  It is now coated in calamine lotion but is starting to curl at the edges and smoke lightly.  ________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 04:37
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #30
jcphat wrote: darkgti6 wrote: jcphat wrote: How about Mkv golf Gti/Seat leonFR fitment? My credit card has started to itch! It is now coated in calamine lotion but is starting to curl at the edges and smoke lightly. Pm'd Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 14:18
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farmer
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #31
allanallen wrote: I realise that buddy, I would be looking to make up my own brackets and some ally bells and rotors, i'd ideally like them to fit under cyclones but I want at least a 300mm rotor. I thought that onced you'd had a play you may be able to tell what the maximum possible disk diameter would be under the cyclone. Sorry i'm p*ss poor at explaning things. Al Hi mate, I think you may struggle to get 300mm rotors under cyclones, although I wont say its impossible. The biggest factor is the clearance from the caliper to the inside of the wheel at the base of the spokes I have found. That will depend on the size and shape of the caliper, and how far you can offset the whole rotor/bell/caliper assembly into the arch. The limiting factor with that is generally the balljoint though as it hits the rotor after about 13mm iirc. How I am getting over this as I need to run 16mm of clearance for my AP calipers is to use a larger bell (8" P.C.D. instead of 7.5") and then the ball joint just sits inside the rotor. My setup will run on 310mm rotors, and will fit under most 15's, but still wont fit under cyclones. I may be able to space the cyclones off a small amount to get them to fit, but ill worry about that possibility later on. ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6 Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 15:01
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #32
mechanical_repairs wrote: Had a lot of interest in these but trying to retain the cyclones, i am on the case and have my engineer on it so to speak, excuse the tatty wheel.  Carl you need some nivia on them hands dude ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 15:43
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #33
farmer wrote: allanallen wrote: I realise that buddy, I would be looking to make up my own brackets and some ally bells and rotors, i'd ideally like them to fit under cyclones but I want at least a 300mm rotor. I thought that onced you'd had a play you may be able to tell what the maximum possible disk diameter would be under the cyclone. Sorry i'm p*ss poor at explaning things. Al Hi mate, I think you may struggle to get 300mm rotors under cyclones, although I wont say its impossible. The biggest factor is the clearance from the caliper to the inside of the wheel at the base of the spokes I have found. That will depend on the size and shape of the caliper, and how far you can offset the whole rotor/bell/caliper assembly into the arch. The limiting factor with that is generally the balljoint though as it hits the rotor after about 13mm iirc. How I am getting over this as I need to run 16mm of clearance for my AP calipers is to use a larger bell (8" P.C.D. instead of 7.5") and then the ball joint just sits inside the rotor. My setup will run on 310mm rotors, and will fit under most 15's, but still wont fit under cyclones. I may be able to space the cyclones off a small amount to get them to fit, but ill worry about that possibility later on. Cheers for that farmer. nice tip with the bells, i've not seen any prices on 8 inch rotors though so this may put me off Which calipers are you running out of curiosity? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 12th Sep 2009 at 23:17
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Bit of progress on these but on the larger version. These are for 17 inch wheels.Can do- Ap calipers (tvr ones as above) 335mmx28mm rotors (Brake disc's) DS2500 Brake pads to suit Brake lines to suit The brackets for the calipers to hub The bells (centre to attach the brake rotors to) Basically a complete kit with everything needed to fit as diy. Looking for ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 22:30
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zac
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds city centre Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,627 Status: Offline |
Post #35
That's not a bad price at all.________________________________________ Hit the limiter in 6th gear at 169mph (GPS - TomTom on the German autobahn). Still pulling like a train too. Cheers- Phase 3 GTi-6 (409hp 'charged weekend toy) - Phase 2.5 Rallye (daily driver) R.I.P Pete Sims |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 00:09
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro  Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I would be intrested if they would ft over a cyclone (or a normal steel wheel, as on my Xsara I don't have cyclone)________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 00:14
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pedro_de_la_cruz
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 14 Mar 2007 Posts: 2,555 Status: Offline |
Post #37
if my champions league accumulator comes off ill be able to have these  fingers crossed great work carl  ________________________________________ *R.I.P Pete Sims* |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 00:18
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stu
Seasoned Pro  Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Carl is there any way you could get the proper AP writing on the calipers, like the one below -  Or is TVR or nothing the only option? |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:22
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #39
stu wrote: Carl is there any way you could get the proper AP writing on the calipers, like the one below - Or is TVR or nothing the only option? I doubt i could put ap racing back on there, but i am sure we could put gti6/peugeot or something like it on there for you. To remove the tvr we will have to have it machined off then start again with the new writing but obviousley we have our limits. Cheers, Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:30
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lukejenks101
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5,694 Status: Offline |
Post #40
stu wrote: Carl is there any way you could get the proper AP writing on the calipers, like the one below - Or is TVR or nothing the only option? If you buy this would you sell your 330mm set up  ________________________________________ PS3 I.D - jenkers101Live i.d - Lukejenks1201 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:33
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stu
Seasoned Pro Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Fair enough Carl.Would you sell just the rotors, bells, lines and hub brackets? lukejenks101 wrote: If you buy this would you sell your 330mm set up Anything is for sale at the right price.  |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:36
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farmer
Seasoned Pro Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #42
I think you can buy the Ap racing decal as a sticker from the bay and just stick it onto the caliper once you get it  ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:37
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #43
I have now put the card in the freezer but the door seals are starting to melt- thanks for the Pm's Carl- the 17" set up with ds2500s sounds just the thing! Any chance of braided lines for my VAG set up?  ________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:42
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farmer
Seasoned Pro Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #44
allanallen wrote: farmer wrote: allanallen wrote: I realise that buddy, I would be looking to make up my own brackets and some ally bells and rotors, i'd ideally like them to fit under cyclones but I want at least a 300mm rotor. I thought that onced you'd had a play you may be able to tell what the maximum possible disk diameter would be under the cyclone. Sorry i'm p*ss poor at explaning things. Al Hi mate, I think you may struggle to get 300mm rotors under cyclones, although I wont say its impossible. The biggest factor is the clearance from the caliper to the inside of the wheel at the base of the spokes I have found. That will depend on the size and shape of the caliper, and how far you can offset the whole rotor/bell/caliper assembly into the arch. The limiting factor with that is generally the balljoint though as it hits the rotor after about 13mm iirc. How I am getting over this as I need to run 16mm of clearance for my AP calipers is to use a larger bell (8" P.C.D. instead of 7.5") and then the ball joint just sits inside the rotor. My setup will run on 310mm rotors, and will fit under most 15's, but still wont fit under cyclones. I may be able to space the cyclones off a small amount to get them to fit, but ill worry about that possibility later on. Cheers for that farmer. nice tip with the bells, i've not seen any prices on 8 inch rotors though so this may put me off Which calipers are you running out of curiosity? Sorry for the OT here Carl! My thread on fitting AP racing CP3307 calipers with 310mm rotors under 15" wheels. I did trial fit my cyclones over the setup too, but they wont go over just yet. Im guessing at the moment that I will need about 15mm spacers to get them to fit, which I would rather not do. (although I have not measured for spacers yet)  Anyway, back on topic. Sounds like a great price for an AP racing setup there Carl, I will be interested to see what size rotors you squeeze in there, especially if they fit under cyclones! ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:43
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #45
jcphat wrote: I have now put the card in the freezer but the door seals are starting to melt- thanks for the Pm's Carl- the 17" set up with ds2500s sounds just the thing! Any chance of braided lines for my VAG set up? Of course mr. They will be included. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:54
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #46
stu wrote: Fair enough Carl. Would you sell just the rotors, bells, lines and hub brackets? lukejenks101 wrote: If you buy this would you sell your 330mm set up Anything is for sale at the right price. If thats all you require then of course fella? Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:55
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stu
Seasoned Pro Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
Post #47
 Think I may have got carried away with myself. I was under the impression that the caliper you were using was the CP5200, not sure how I managed that.   So, your brackets would be totally wrong for the calipers I want to use.  Sorry Carl, should have read the thread properly. |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 04:11
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #48
stu wrote: Think I may have got carried away with myself. I was under the impression that the caliper you were using was the CP5200, not sure how I managed that. So, your brackets would be totally wrong for the calipers I want to use. Sorry Carl, should have read the thread properly. The brackets are not too hard to design yourself stu once you have the disc/bell you will be using in the setup  I designed my own brackets for the CP5200 caliper and then got them made up by a local machinist ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 15:02
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stu
Seasoned Pro Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
Post #49
rallyestyle wrote: The brackets are not too hard to design yourself stu once you have the disc/bell you will be using in the setup I designed my own brackets for the CP5200 caliper and then got them made up by a local machinist Think that's what I'm going to do. Just need to find someone local who knows what they're doing. |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 22:38
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #50
stu wrote: rallyestyle wrote: The brackets are not too hard to design yourself stu once you have the disc/bell you will be using in the setup I designed my own brackets for the CP5200 caliper and then got them made up by a local machinist Think that's what I'm going to do. Just need to find someone local who knows what they're doing. Do you buy Practical Performance Car magazine? I think it was last month (or could have been the month before) they had an article about making brackets to fit different calipers to different cars. They used an old Audi Quatro and fitted Willwood 4 pots to it. Worth a read ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 16th Sep 2009 at 00:09
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