just went to start it but it wont start, it all turns over fine but doesnt seem to want to start. any ideas?
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #1
i fitted my new engine yesterday got all the harness pluged in and put all the fluids in today.just went to start it but it wont start, it all turns over fine but doesnt seem to want to start. any ideas? ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:39
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daviewonder
Regular Location: West sussex Registered: 01 May 2009 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
Post #2
I know this sounds obvious but have you checked the fuel cut off switch? ________________________________________ Why is it that shoe repairers are so good at cutting keys? - Harry Hill. |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:40
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Inertia switch, crank sensor connection, fuel pump, multifunction relay behind ecu... |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:41
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #4
no mate, didnt think of that, al go give it a press now ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:42
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Inertia switch??? whats that?________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:45
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daviewonder
Regular Location: West sussex Registered: 01 May 2009 Posts: 307 Status: Offline |
Post #6
eddy_gti6 wrote: Inertia switch??? whats that? I think its the posh name for what I said ________________________________________ Why is it that shoe repairers are so good at cutting keys? - Harry Hill. |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:47
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willygti
Seasoned Pro Location: Exeter Registered: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,024 Status: Offline |
Post #7
the button above the battery box, its either red or black. ________________________________________ Team Ducati 7482003 Subaru Impreza STi |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 22:51
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #8
red lol. tried it, didnt work, checked fuses, there ok, fuel pump doesnt sound like its working but just checked and there is fuel coming through________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 23:24
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #9
do i have to get my ecu unlocked if i am running a new engine? just i am using my old wiring look, ecu and box________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 23:26
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #10
ECU should be fine if you are using the same ECU, transponder and key. When you turn the ignition on to the second click, can you hear the fuel pump prime? If not, check the red and black relay which is attached to the back of the ECU box. It is held on with a single 8mm nut, make sure you rememebered to plug this in. Also check crank and cam sensors are plugged in. Stan. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 23:33
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i cant here the fuel pump prime, i will go and check the plug beging the ecu now.i will be back to let yous no if i ahve any luck ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 23:41
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #12
right lads i am 100% sure its my fuel pump not working. any idea what i can do to fix this?________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 00:03
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Use a make shit gravity fed fuel pump, big bottle with fuel in it higher than the fuel rail with a pipe going into the fuel pipe feed, then a pipe from the return feed line into a bottle lower than the fuel rail, then you will know if it works or not.Or you could just get a new fuel pump ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 03:43
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #14
that sounds like a bit of a f*ck on i am goin to check a few plugs tomorrow and if i cant get it started its going to the garage easy way for me ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 04:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #15
you got 12v at the inertia switch?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 04:20
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #16
i am geting 12v on my volt gauge meter if that helps?________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 04:32
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #17
nope!!you need to see if the ecu is sending the signal to the relay to power up the fuel pump. without unlocking you wont get a prime, without crank you wont get any more. with a buggered relay you'll get sod all. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 04:37
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rich-6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bottoming out! Registered: 06 May 2007 Posts: 5,306 Status: Offline |
Post #18
I was always under the impression that the ECU will lock itself if its unplugged from the car without the ignition turned on and will have to be sent off and unlocked for it to work again, Even if its for the same car it was removed Or is that only transferring between cars? You've said you are getting fuel, So the pump must be fine as must the Relay? Mine Couldnt be heard priming everytime you turned the key, It would only do it if it was left for a while. ________________________________________ RIP Pete Sims |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 05:09
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #19
so is that the red fuel cut of switch under the bonnet and is that what needs unlocking?________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 04:42
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #20
i have had no engine in my car since about the 15th august and just got my engine in yesterday and wired up. tried starting it but there is no sound from the fuel pump, i can usualy here my fuel pump when i go to start my car but since the new engine is in there is nothing. i will give it a good going over in the morning________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 05:09
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #21
i am not getting any fuel or a spark from the plugs. any ideas???________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 16:32
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #22
It sounds as if the immobiliser is playing up the fuel and sparks will not work if the key and ecu are not from the same car or if the connectors are dud so double check that each of the connectors is clean and fully engaged also check the engine earthing.________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 16:38
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cress87
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
Post #23
As lots of others have suggested, check the relay box on the back of the battery box. If you unplug it and short out two of the pins on the loom plug then you should hear the fuel pump run. Short pins 5 and 8 on the loom plug. If the pump works then the relay is fubarred. FAQ ________________________________________ You feed beefburgers to swans. I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 16:40
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #24
key and ecu are from the same car, i tried bridging 5 & 8 on that plug and there is nothing________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 17:19
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hman205
Regular Location: Bristol Registered: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 313 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Try resetting the ECU ________________________________________ Another Broken one |
Posted 1st Sep 2009 at 19:02
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