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Author Subject: gti6 idle becomes irratic after idling, only when warm
jimmyhackers

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Post #1
to elborate on the title.

from cold my gti6 starts fine, idles fine, runs fine.
when it warms up it runs fine, and idles fine for about 10-15 seconds.
the idle then become a bit misfirey and slowly gets worse and worse.
if i blip the throttle it cures it again for another 10-15 seconds.
if i dont blip the throttle it eventually feels like its about to stall/die.

sometimes if im trying to accelerate off from a standstill it also feels like its about to die/stall unless i take it out of gear and blip the throttle. again only when the engines warm.

im hoping its just my icv being dicky and it needs a clean/replace.

but just incase any other places/sensors to look at?

thanks in advance
jim

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Posted 27th Apr 2024 at 10:29
S8-Tom

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Post #2
The green coolant temp sensor migth be worth a look. In the FAQ's under 'Engine' there's a 'Testing Sensors' FAQ - Coolant Temp Sensor is about half way down.

Failing that, what's the history on the lambda?

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Posted 29th Apr 2024 at 09:23
jimmyhackers

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Post #3
thanks for the reply

unknown.....cars been sat for 10 years, somewhat of a barn find.

i cleaned out the icv and oil bretaher lines other day, didnt seem to help.

i havnt been able to "test" or give it an "italian tune up" untill i had the cam belt done (today)

i have swapped over the exhaust from my parts pile....but i reused its exsisting o2 sensor.....it didnt look bad but thats hardly an indication.

by any chance are either of those two sensors "tested" if by unplugging either, it cures the problem?

also.. im not sure if the bogging down and irratic idle problems temporarily cured by me blipping the throttle or me allowing the throttle pedal to fully release and the revs drop past a certain point before i try and use it again. could this be a throttle position sensor problem?

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Posted 29th Apr 2024 at 16:29
jimmyhackers

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Post #4
did an oil flush and change today, tried the ecu reset with all the electrics turned on trick....

problem still persists Sad

driving it spiritidly for a week hasnt fixed it either.

i have figured out it is the throttle pedal being fully released that cures the bogging down issue.
it only seems to happen around sub 2500 rpm.

its weird as it only happens if the engines warm.

i remember reading on here somewhere that after the engine is upto tempreture the ecu hands over engine management to the lambda as it needs to be hot before it gives the correct reading.

not sure if it mentioned any other sensors it starts to use once the engine is warm.
i have a new lambda on the way.

hopefully thats the fix.

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Posted 4th May 2024 at 18:49
darkgti6

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Post #5
Can you run a diagnostic? I'm betting on a failed MAP sensor.

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Posted 4th May 2024 at 23:57
jimmyhackers

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the diagnostic thing i have only reads wheel speed sensors and if the airbag tripped/not, they're working fine. :S

ive rang every garage /mobile mechanic/automotive electrician in a 30 mile radius and not a single one has the peugeot planet diagnostic software.
(west midlands)

if you could reccommend someone i havnt tried that'd be great Big grin

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Posted 5th May 2024 at 14:07
jimmyhackers

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Post #7
been tinkering today. found it it was missing a litre of gearbox oil :S (filled now)

i tried two spare map sensors i had in my parts bin. neither fixed the problems.

went for a drive with the lambda unplugged. both problems are gone.

ive also realised my check engine light, doesnt come on when the lambda is plugged or unplugged. (should it?)
the bulbs ok as it lights on 2nd click ignition.

hopefully when the new lambda gets here it'll fix the problems.





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Posted 5th May 2024 at 15:56
jimmyhackers

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Post #8
i swear my car is f-ing with me.

past two days both to and from work the issue has not appeared.

sods law my new O2 sensor is delivered today.

any chance half a tank of redexed petrol can fix an O2 sensor? because thats all ive done to her Big grin

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Posted 9th May 2024 at 16:05
jimmyhackers

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definately f-ing with me.

On Friday the problem appeared about 2 minutes into my commute to work (before she was fully warm).....solved itself about 5 minutes towards the end of my commute. (commute is 20-30 minutes)

was about the same story on the way home.....problem only occured mid journey and was fine at the beggining and end.

swapped the O2 sensor today (sat) along with a brand new map sensor, (and a new gearbox mount)
ecu reset. first drive, problem seems to of gone....but a new one has appeared... :S

i get a quite noticable dip in power past 3500 rpm, feels like ive let off the throttle or someone attached a heavy weight to the back of the car.

any ideas?

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Posted 11th May 2024 at 12:00
jimmyhackers

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Post #10
progress. (im a dingle and i think its helped)

took the car for its second spin.....

was fine except the lack of power past 3500rpm.
towards the end she started dieing worse than before, spluttering and cutting out Sad
releasing the throttle didnt seem to help this time.

managed to limp her home to find id left the throttle position sensor cable unplugged....today id only manged to loosen one bolt before realising id need to take the whole throttle body off to get to the other. id only re tightened the bolt not reattached the plug.

re-attaching the TPS got me all the beans back past 3500rpm. the dieing issued came back (but not so bad, as i could cure it by fully releasing the throttle.

i guess this points to TPS being dicky?

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Posted 11th May 2024 at 15:21
jimmyhackers

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Post #11
Im still and dingle and it didnt help.

just taken off the throtle body to fit new TPS, made no difference Sad

new spark plugs
new coils packs (2nd hand)
new exhaust
cleaned ICV
new o2 senor
new map sensor
new TPS

if it turns out to be the green coolant sensor ill be annoyed with myself Razz

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Posted 11th May 2024 at 17:18
Joep

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Post #12
Isn’t it a bad terminal on the battery? That was what was causing similar issues with one of my GTI’s.

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